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SATURDAY, JULY 04, 2009 3:48 PM IST
This is Kamla Bhatt we bring you part 2 of our conversation with Zoho’s Sridhar Vembu.
Kamla: You described Zoho as an Indian company with a skeletal staff here in the US. What were some of the early pitfalls and problems that you encountered working on Zoho because we know about the success but what about the pitfalls?
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Sridhar: Sometimes in anything new you do, you simply have to figure out a lot of things like how to write software efficiently to run as a web service on the internet. All of these we have to figure out and those are the engineering challenges, then the market challenges so figure out what for example in CRM market is. But I didn’t come from a CRM background, we came from a different background so figuring that out. So those are the challenges but we have smart people that we have developed internally a cadre of managers and engineers who are come up in the system and they are really smart and they observe a lot of companies. Basically we are also a business school and so they learn and they put their lessons to work, the next generation. So that is how we are. It’s very much an organic process its not like day one when we think of doing something and we get that right. Its like we launched something and then we learned a lesson, sometimes it’s a failure and then we analyse why we failed, go back do it again. We have done that with even our CRM for example; our first ten ships were in 2004 as a product we didn’t ship it as a web service. The whole CRM was a product. And then we decided no that is not the right way to talk in this market so we actually reloaded as a web service. So that is the ability to learn from your mistakes and adapt. That is what I think is the key to success.
Kamla: Tell us about your hiring process. How many IITans do you have in your company?
Sridhar: May be 3, including myself. So IIT has not been the big source that is because there is so much of competition. Everybody from Google, to Yahoo, to Microsoft everybody is recruiting so we don’t stand a chance. So our way again is a unique hiring philosophy over the years. We struggled a lot you can say its not like we had a plan for this. So we hire from a variety of colleges and what we noticed in the beginning is the academic record and the performance did not have much of a common relation. Someone could have been really good on paper but...
Kamla: It is the exact opposite of the Google hiring process.
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Anonymous Said:


I like the directness and total honesty of yours Sridhar. That is remarkable. Hats off to that - I am sick and tired of listening to the political, diplomatic and ignorant comments of CEOs in Indian IT (well mostly IT services!), like: Krish G of Infy says - in Dec 2007 - Downturn will not have any impact. Now after 1 year it will be 15% growth! S. Ramadorai of TCS says - We are not bothered about our some financial clients being lost. Now says we are living in unpredictable times! NASSCOM Chief now - S. Mittal - Shall I say something?? The list is distinguished and endless. What hurts me most is that they are playing with many young professionals who come to IT for the lure of money. What is wrong in saying - I do not know actually. How hard is to say that??? Personally I am not surprised as I know the many PM/GM/TM/DM etc in their companies have not written a single piece of code in their entire career. But why these guys keep on ducking the truth??? On the other hand I do not agree with your data and application rebel theory. Application will always be there to control data. If you talking of data neutrality, I am really sorry. This is a long haul. We all know how they are collaborating in language front (IDL came and went, ...then XML is new fashion now) or in market front say OSS/BSS interoperability. Loooooooong battle, no victory or loss in sight yet. Btw, (not important at all) but I guess the number of IITians is perhaps more. You, Tony, Shailesh and Sekar are from IIT (=4). But it is totally meaningless as I have seen in software. IIT/IIM etc do not matter and I respect your candor on that. May be high time GOOG, MSFT, YHOO learn something from here. So also IIT/IIM guys - recently I was talking to one and I was suffocated with the arrongance within minutes.

Posted On 12/18/2008 5:41:15 AM
Vivek Said:


Your interviews are great and I especailly enjoyed your conversation with Sridhar Pembu- here is an original thinker who is very clear in his goals and direct in approach and retains the ability to "reboot" and "reload" as necessary. However, you really need to have these available as podcasts so that they are not owned by the computer and are liberated to be listened to on the move.

Posted On 12/31/2008 4:00:24 AM