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TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 24, 2009

The great classical liberal, Ludwig von Mises, who single-handedly battled the erroneous doctrines of socialism through much of the 20th century, remarked in passing that the Buddhist ideal of renunciation of desires is “vegetative”. The science of economics, he wrote, looks instead at its polar opposite—how we undertake “actions” to satisfy our desires. Economics has nothing to say on the vegetative ideal. This is the difference between Eastern and Western philosophy, he added.

Illustration: Jayachandran / Mint

Illustration: Jayachandran / Mint

Just as modern capitalism is of Western origin, its true understanding also comes from the West. What was begun by Adam Smith in Scotland culminated in the towering achievements of the School of Vienna, led by Carl Menger, whose teachings have guided his followers, and upon which they have built a truly imposing structure. Menger’s Principles of Economics is dated 1871— he was the product of a Vienna under the Hapsburgs, with its brilliant intellectual culture. Both Mises and Friedrich Hayek began their intellectual lives in Vienna. The science of modern subjectivist economics is, we must admit, decidedly of Western origin.

It is also true that in Indian philosophy, all our concerns have been with the “vegetative ideal”: the renunciation of desires. It is this, many believe, that is the pathway to moksha (release from the cycle of rebirth)—the fourth and final “end of man”, after dharma (duty), artha (management of resources) and kama (sensuality). These three are about the real world; moksha must be about the other world.

What concerns the economist is not moksha, but artha. A popular history of economic thought is aptly titled The Worldly Philosophers. Economic science is about comprehending the real world of markets, of phenomena associated with them, including prices and production, and the meaning of the concepts we use while engaging in purposive behaviour in markets, such as capital—the word that lies at the root of “capitalism”. It is this Western science that must inform India today—because artha comes first (after dharma, of course, for the idea is to pursue moral gains). Our civilization accords the pursuit of artha its much deserved pre-eminence (it is ranked above kama) but our civilization has never produced philosophers who investigated markets and market phenomena.

And the key difference is exactly as Mises found it: We thought about the renunciation of desires, while they thought of “human action” to satisfy desires. We thought of moksha; they thought of artha. We are other-worldly; they are worldly philosophers. If our civilization wants to succeed in the real world, we have much to learn from the outstanding scholars Hapsburg Vienna produced.

Let us now turn to a “development economist” who always opposed Indian planning and forever championed free markets: Lord Peter Bauer. Margaret Thatcher once directed a group of developing world leaders at a Commonwealth conference to “go read Peter Bauer”. And they should.

Lord Bauer wrote that in most parts of the developing world, he found the phenomenon of “needlessness”: Because nature had given these people all they needed, they were not required to labour. This is, of course, true wherever nature has been bountiful—as in Goa, where the motto of the people is “susegaad”, which means “relax”. It is also true in Assam, where they say “lahay lahay” or “slowly slowly”.

Yet, according to economic science, such vegetative philosophies must be seen as ruinous. As the Viennese emphasized, all human action occurs in the category of time. We must save time just as we must save labour. It makes no sense if all our highways and railways operate on the susegaad or lahay lahay principle. A thorough comprehension of the teachings of the Viennese indicates that the highest priority in India must be accorded to transportation. A revolution in transportation will improve the productivity of all Indians. This is especially true for farmers, fishermen and milk producers, whose output must reach the market within a specific time if they are to sell at all. Many cash crops such as flowers, fruit and vegetables would flourish if India’s roads were fixed.

Lord Bauer had something important to say about “needlessness”. He said the best thing to do was to unilaterally declare free trade and allow all our energetic trading communities to tempt these needless people with their offerings. Seeing a television set, the Goan villager would abandon his feni and siesta for a few days, harvest his coconuts and sell them to buy the TV set.

The lesson: Work is disutility— we do not maximize work; rather, we maximize the rewards that can be gained by work. From M.K. Gandhi to Manmohan Singh, this vital understanding has precluded us. We are still producing work out of tax revenue. Our trade minister is invariably a staunch protectionist. Public opinion sustains these schizoid policies because the public is miseducated— by the same state. We proceed from one error to another—because we do not understand “human action”.

Yet, moksha remains a destination for man. There is an age for artha, an age for kama—and an age for other things. As we learn from them, the West can learn a lot from our “vegetative” ideal, which does not imply the end of personal growth. Quite the contrary.

Sauvik Chakraverti is an author and columnist. He blogs at www.sauvik-antidote. blogspot.com. Comments are welcome at theirview@livemint.com

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Venki Said:


Sauvik, Do you have to look to westerners to find out about Indian society? What a terrible misunderstanding of Indian society!!! You mention Dharma, Artha, Kama and Moksha were all considered valid pursuits, yet you say Indian society focused only on moksha? What actual evidence do you have other than some ignorant statement from some unknown western philosopher? Have you studied the Thirukural that deals only with Dharma, Artha and Kama leaving Moksha out? Indian society also considered the four-fold division of society as Sudra (Labor class), Vaishya (business class), Brahmin (academic class) and Kshatriya (administrative or warrior class). Have you investigated the traditional Vaishya class in India or have you looked at Indian trade since ancient times before making such ignorant statements? Renunciation of desires does not mean a vegetative state. It means detachment and dispassionate evaluation of all phenomena. Karma among other things means action and the ideal is to act towards a goal without an expectation of the fruits of that action (detachment rather than attachement). There are many things we Indians can learn from the West, but ignorance and misinformation about our own past is not one of them.

Posted On 6/29/2009 2:12:12 AM
Re: sauvik Said:


My limited point is that Eastern philosophy has never studied "action" directed towards the satisfaction of desires - which is modern, and very Western, subjectivist economics. This is the opposite of renunication; this is the opposite of non-attachment to the results of one's actions. There is also no doubt that the higher reaches of Hindu and Buddhist philosophy are highly satisfying to the mind - as many Westerners have affirmed in the past, and many more continue to affirm today. I have merely pointed out what we can learn from the West, and benefit from this learning. I have also said that Mises' notion of the "vegetative ideal" is inaccurate.

Posted On 6/30/2009 9:23:39 AM
Re: Subbarao Said:


Hello Venki, Very well said. The subtle and pervasive indoctrination of Indians in this matter is so thorough that Sauvik is not alone in holding those views. We know very little about ancient India and the fault lies with the educational system inspired by the Nehruvian mentality of discounting or discarding all that is essentially Indian. This goes back to the times of Raja Rammohan Roy when, a socially regressive practice like sati which, was basically a ploy to keep family wealth and land to the male members of the family, was used to clobber the Indian ethos and promote the British way of life

Posted On 6/30/2009 11:05:29 PM
Venki Said:


Sauvik, You are comparing apples and oranges when you compare renaissance economic philosophers to Indian spiritual philosophers. Renunciation only applies to an individual (not to societies) on the path to moksha, not to those who are in pursuit of artha and kama. Subjectivism is defined as any theory which takes private experience to be the sole foundation of factual knowledge from which objective knowledge can be derived. By this definition most Indian schools are subjectivist because they are based on an individual's quest (sadhana) to obtain jnana, not mere belief. If you want to look at extant 'books or philosophy' on ancient Indian economic ideas, you may want to look at the Arthasastra by Chanakya, the Thirukural and so forth. Chanakya says that artha (sound economies) is the most important quality and discipline required for a Rajarshi, and that dharma & kama are both dependent on it. Chanakya writes on the economic duties of a king: "Hence the king shall be ever active in the management of the economy. The root of wealth is (economic) activity and lack of it (brings) material distress. In the absence of (fruitful economic) activity, both current prosperity and future growth will be destroyed. A king can achieve the desired objectives & abundance of riches by undertaking (productive) economic activity." For starters you may want to look at 'Ancient Indian Economic Thought : Relevance for Today/Ratan Lal Basu and Raj Kumar Sen'

Posted On 7/2/2009 11:17:19 AM
Re: sauvik Said:


Chanakya's Arthashastra is not a book on economic science. Rather, it is a manual on the public administration of a Hobbesian State that administers any and every economic activity. The notion that "the King should forever be active in economic management" is wrong-headed to the extreme. The science of modern (western) subjectivist economics teaches that the economy must be free from all government intervention. Chanakya's ideal of widespread interventionism is precisely the path taken by our own Hobbesian socialist State - and see the horrible results! So, I repeat: We have much to learn from modern subjectivist economics, which is of Western origin.

Posted On 7/3/2009 9:04:48 AM
Venki Said:


Arthasastra and Thirukural were pointed out as sources of information to rebut the notion that ancient Indian society prized renunciation over (economic)activity not claimed to be books on economics (not economic science, which is an oxymoron). You are wedded to von Mises and Hayek from LSE, while Nehru was wedded to Harold Laski and Fabian socialism from LSE. Lee Kuan Yew was a Fabian socialist who later gave it up and made Singapore prosperous. At one end of the continuum is laissez-faire and at the other end is complete control like the former USSR communist variety. Most countries including India operate some where in the middle along that continuum. As Deng Xiaoping said, 'It does not matter if the cat is black or white as long as it catches the mouse'. We need to be pragmatic and evolve models that work for us in India and not be wedded to ideologies and if that means learning from other's experiences, including the west, that is perfectly fine. But if you want to blame India's slow economic growth on a philosophy, it would not be any native philosophy, but a western philosophy, namely Fabian socialism. In fact I would argue, that we are yet to let our native genius flourish, which is made harder by people like you, who even question the existence of native economic philosophies, disregarding the fact that we have had many prosperous kingdoms since antiquity.

Posted On 7/3/2009 11:34:58 AM
R Said:


I am absolutely flabbergasted that you say "The science of modern (western) subjectivist economics teaches that the economy must be free from all government intervention." in march 2009! This theory of 'Free markets' proponded by none other than Alan Greenspan,and stands shattered and in ruins today!and look where we are now! Even the Mighty American share market has not indicated when we will see the bottoming out! It was NOT a scientific theory bcos it was not tried and replicated without fail any where before it was thrust on unsuspecting victims!In science observations and hypotheses need to be proven beyond doubt and need concrete proofs which can be replicated any where any time The economic theories are at best behavioural models which do vary according to the variables which they get exposed to! It is more like weather forecasting , only part science

Posted On 7/3/2009 9:13:29 PM
Venki Said:


Arthasastra and Thirukural were pointed out as sources of information to rebut the notion that ancient Indian society prized renunciation over (economic)activity not claimed to be books on economics (not economic science, which is an oxymoron). You are wedded to von Mises and Hayek from LSE, while Nehru was wedded to Harold Laski and Fabian socialism from LSE. Lee Kuan Yew was a Fabian socialist who later gave it up and made Singapore prosperous. At one end of the continuum is laissez-faire and at the other end is complete control like the USSR communist variety. Most countries including India operate some where in the middle along that continuum. As Deng Xiaoping said, 'It does not matter if the cat is black or white as long as it catches the mouse'. We need to be pragmatic and evolve models that work for us in India and not be wedded to ideologies and if that means learning from other's experiences, including the west, that is perfectly fine. But if you want to blame India's slow economic growth on a philosophy, it would not be any native philosophy, but a western philosophy, namely Fabian socialism. In fact I would argue, that we are yet to let our native genius flourish, which is made harder by people like you, who even question the existence of native economic philosophies, disregarding the fact that we have had many prosperous kingdoms since antiquity.

Posted On 7/4/2009 12:05:18 AM
Re: sauvik Said:


About Greenspan: He was the head of a government monopoly issuer of fiat money. He was not a theorist of free money nor of free banking. What has failed is precisely government money. I believe in the International Gold Standard - that is, money supplied by The Market. About Nehru: He was not a Fabian socialist - who believed in municipalization. Nehru was a Stalinist who believed in central economic planning, heavy industrialization under The State, and a "command economy." None of these ideas are even remotely Fabian. Nehru was actually a horrible, evil totalitarian.

Posted On 7/5/2009 9:42:37 AM