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Saikarthik Said:
Ha ha, that's why Indian politics has stooped to its low levels,do you want our private industries to become like reservation-prone public sector.
What a joke this article is,do we need a census after what has be written here.Why should we always find ways to differentiate ourselves from fellow countrymen why can't be plain and simple "Only Indians".Please don't make casteist statements because this will only result into mud-slinging contest without an end.
Posted On 8/27/2009 11:27:38 PM
Re: manoj Said:
Identify your caste then comment....I dont think you know anything about dalit suffering ,past and present...unless dalits rise india can never truely shine.for that reservation is a must in private sector ...it is on there blood and toil over the ages the B & B is ruling...I am not a dalit.
Posted On 8/28/2009 4:18:16 PM
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Kalpesh Said:
Yeh, reservation in private sector will come as most of the polico belongs to shudra. But that will not solve the problem. Out private sector will fall to low levels similar to politics. Brahmin's point is valid, there dominance is based on merit. So the right way for shudra is to move up based on merit. The merit will come from better education not reservation.
Posted On 8/28/2009 9:09:33 AM
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Raghuraman Said:
Brahmin or Bania these are our own; unless you want the multinationals controlled by an internatyional mafia to take over. What an asinine column.
Posted On 8/28/2009 10:35:56 AM
Re: P Said:
Your own? I don't think these terms of endearment exist on the broader scale. Millenia of illiteracy and oppression by 'their own' has been the Dalit's lot. Only democracy has begun to change that. With Shudras in political power I think it follows naturally that Shudras will legislate laws to begin a correction.
Posted On 9/17/2009 7:45:25 PM
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n Said:
this article is actually rubbish..don't like this casteist data that u have given..i sometimes wonder what comes over aakar patel though i have enjoyed reading few of ur previous article bit this was surely disappointing
Posted On 8/28/2009 1:18:29 PM
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Suneeta Said:
I definitely don't understand the point of this article. We are still in the process of moving away from our unncessary caste culture and you seem to rake up unnecessary issues here by bringing these completely disciminatory details to light. Please use your pens/keyboard and thoughts more responsibly.
Posted On 8/28/2009 2:35:35 PM
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Bharath Said:
Great compilation of facts.
Politics deteriorated in its quality since Independence. This article only points that it was because of power shifting from Brahmins and Banias to Sudras.
With this clamour for reservations in the Private Sector, I hope we don't have a day when we talk about deterioration in quality of businesses!
Bottomline: Intelligence and intelligent people will not just survive, but thrive. Demanding reservation is an indication of helplessness and disgusting, so to speak.
Posted On 8/28/2009 3:57:50 PM
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m Said:
very good article its high time we ask corporates to give reservation to dalits,all these people are sitting there because there forefathers practised caste system,we never find dalits in any corporate in the top,name one in the last 50 years? This is grave matter needs to highlighted
Posted On 8/28/2009 4:05:12 PM
Re: harsh Said:
K R Narayanan, Ex president of India is one such example who rose to the position through sheer intelligence and later political connections.
Posted On 8/30/2009 2:07:09 PM
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DVader Said:
Laughably simplistic article.And I'm shocked since Mr Patel mentions Narendra Modi in a sentence which did not contain the word 'Pogrom' or 'Genocide' or 'Massacre' ! Interesting times....
Posted On 8/28/2009 4:11:44 PM
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Ram Said:
Woww! Compiling this data, and having the chutzpah to write it (never mind publishing) must have taken some doing.
If the article was written to prove a point, that proves to be elusive. However, if the aim was to show-off author's suaveness in classifying banias, brahmins (never mind the Jains included just to make a point - 2 communities 'ruling' over media) or 'peasant' (seriously? where does that sit in the Indian 'varna' system?), he seems to have passed with flying colors.
Posted On 8/28/2009 6:15:22 PM
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Bimtech Said:
After reading your article it seems like you ran out of topics to write about
Posted On 8/28/2009 6:27:28 PM
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Lionel Said:
Brahmins and Bania did not come by these positions by accident - it stems from cultures that underscore achievement by dint of effort, both intellectual and physical. Reservations beyond the school level will do nothing to ensure Dalit or SC/ST advancement and in fact limit them - as is often said "give a man a fish and he eats a meal while teaching him to fish enables him to eat his whole life". The US is a perfect example of how quotas have done virtually nothing to advance the cause of Black Americans.
Posted On 8/28/2009 9:19:38 PM
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rahul Said:
nvr read such an absurd article.Even with so many reservation of majority in India if some one frm higher caste does something its an achievement.Even becoming a clerk and peon and clerk is achievement.this article may justify caste system our ancestor were not wrong brahmin/baniyas hv got talent after all we were created from head of brahma.
Posted On 8/29/2009 12:24:20 AM
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Vikram Said:
I think that both sides of the debate have to be understood if we are to make progress. Aakar's point in identifying the caste of the people who control much of India's economy is not to pin the blame on somebody, but to point out the disturbing fact that these people all come from a small well-defined subset of the population.
This means that only a small fraction of the population has the skills and resources to create wealth. Of course getting to such a position requires hard work and determination, regardless of one's origins. But the fact is that if we want to progress, then the entire population should have the chance to show their skills, entrepreneurial or otherwise.
Although, I dont think that reservations will be of much use here. This is a really difficult problem that will require a lot of creative thinking to resolve.
Posted On 8/29/2009 2:07:06 AM
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Ashok Said:
Now that's what I call speaking out! Way to go. It's time this widespread brahmin-bania power caucus was not just exposed but brought to task. Forget freemasons, everyone knows you don't even need to wear a special ring or have a secret handshake so long as you're a brahmin or a bania in the halls of upper corporate punditry.
One solution is to simply illegalize all caste definitions as being undemocratic and make it mandatory in the education system to disallow caste mentions. My parents, back in 1964, strenuously objected the column asking Religion/Caste on my birth certificate and rebelliously put 'Indian' instead. (I'm of mixed-race, mixed-religion, mixed-caste and I am not part of any of those groupings.) That's what we should all be, and if we can't, then we shouldn't be allowed to vote, have passports, do business, etc. Cut off the heads of prejudice in one fell sweep.
Great article!
Posted On 8/29/2009 7:43:34 AM
Re: Ja Said:
Inspite of having mixed-race,religion,caste You are still whining is the proof of your incompetence. And Economies are not democratic. They are like wars. Don't Call for Demolishing your own Economy.
But for the Economy, There would be NO Subsidies and the poor of india will die within Months.
Posted On 9/1/2009 12:04:34 AM
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Som Said:
What an Idea Sirji !
Good Research, great summary, dread the impending conclusion - good thesis
Som
Posted On 8/29/2009 8:27:08 AM
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SC Said:
And Mr. Aakar Patel, you did not mention by whom Live Mint is being run? Is it being run by a Bania-Brahmin or by a Shudra? Do something that it is controlled by a Shudra like you .
Posted On 8/29/2009 8:48:32 AM
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Raghavendra Said:
Aakar Patel - this is the most casteist article I have read in recent times.
I am tempted to ask - what if 6% population of Brahmin + bania run enterprises? They have done a good job. You do not have the decency to acknowledge the contribution made by them - Did Deepak Parekh steal or rob?/ he worked hard - what is your problem. Your Patels are no less hegemonistic compared to any of the castes you have mentioned and in any case your "team" is winning - so what is your problem?
I think all the corporates you mention have hired people without bothering about caste affiliations, which is the best any one in this country can and should ask for.
Reservation in private sector is a ploy by "reservationists" to hijack the wealth created by Brahmins + banias by the back door. It is a clear political move. At this moment reservation in private sector is a "politically correct", factually incorrect and morally bankrupt idea. Like you predict, the Patels and other Shudras ( by no means a derogatory term - not untouchable, but absolutely like able and important group of people in India) will take over everything in India ( Incidentally this is the group that actually harasses the Dalits in this country).
By reserving jobs you will create a new powerful caste ( like trade unionists - who do not do any work in a company or factory, but roam around creating trouble). The new reserved caste will create enormous trouble in companies and factories because no body will be able to touch them.
Interesting that you mention Namboodripad and Buddadeb - both communists who might be hating brahmins more than even you!!
I have great respect for Vallabhbhai Patel - but you robbed some of my respect for Patels - I have a lot of friends who are Patels and they do not expect doles!!
I am curious - what do you want the Brahmins and Banias to do?? Just give up all their wealth and abilities and go into the forest?? Is that your concept of social justice??
R Raghavendra Ravi
Posted On 8/29/2009 10:41:40 AM
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KODUKULA Said:
In my opinion it is absurd to write an article like this. It is not a question of caste, colour or creed. Ultimately, one should deliver be that in business or employment. I do not want to comment on politics as the same has become heaven for anti-national/anti-social elements.Coming to reservation in private sector, there is nothing wrong in it, but certainly that will not serve any purpose.
Posted On 8/29/2009 11:51:56 AM
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Ravinder Said:
The problems with Bania companies are first they are owned grossly incompetent who have not developed any technology but another Livemint story tells us CESC is eyeing Rs.1600 crore annual profit from Rs.200 crores investment that too may be funded by public funds drawn from banks. I don’t think we should have clubbed Brahins in this.
Posted On 8/29/2009 12:04:37 PM
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Varun Said:
I can't imagine such backward thinking promoted by a such a reputed publication. This article is utter crap. I think this idiot writer forgot that none of the private sector companies hire on caste basis. Had they done that, the lower castes would have been much more backward. Its the the philosophy of let the best man win, which is holding our private sector so strongly even in these times.
People like Aakar Patel encourage us to put all our focus on useless things like caste and religion instead of looking at the overall progress of the country. I pity you Aakar.
Posted On 8/29/2009 12:50:35 PM
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Sandeep Said:
casteiest article fit to be thrown in trash.how can u publish such an article which divides along casteist lines and ascribes acheivement of people becuase of their cast and not their effort and merit.
you have insulted your readers sentiments and wasted your resources and time by publishing this article.in future please do not publish such superficial article.
regards
Dr.KHANNA
wasted
Posted On 8/29/2009 1:48:50 PM
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Sri Said:
Amazing article ! What did the author want to prove (a) he is as regressive as people were till a few decades back, (b) he has a working knowledge of the caste system in India (c) he has no better topics to think of ? Must compliment Mint for publishing this (pathetic) article.
Posted On 8/29/2009 2:23:23 PM
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Ankit Said:
The headline caught my eye. Thought it would be an insightful one providing new perspectives on the state of the affairs.
But the article left me perplexed to an extent that I am writing a comment here.
This article is a reflection of such a narrow thinking that it escapes my mind how could the newspaper even allow such articles to publish!
Looking at the heads of corporates, states and government from the point of view of their lien is doing injustice to the concept of being Indian. It fails to acknowledge the fact that here in India, promotions happen on merit rather than their castes.
And yes I am an Indian who is co-incidentally a Bania as well.
Posted On 8/29/2009 4:19:24 PM
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mayank Said:
This article is really a hate article spewing venom.
In every society, few people will do better than others and these would then uplift and drive the progress of others. Instead of celebrating the achievements of fellow countrymen, Aakar wants us to end up like African states where tribes war with each other, where hate is more attractive than cumulative progress.
Banias capital will help in spreading fruits of capital and Brahmin brains will spread the light of knowledge.
Posted On 8/29/2009 5:35:04 PM
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Dhruv Said:
Last time, I got disgusted by a newspaper article was when I read the comparison between Advani and Manmohan Singh done by aakar patel in his April 26 article.. in a completely biased way.. and today he is back with a completely castiest article..I wonder if Live Mint had a shortage of able columnists... they could have better done away with a column,.. but by publishing such data ( with whatever intention it is), is just not appropriate...
Hope to see a more meaningful analysis of the same issue to be done..
@ Mr. Aakar Patel: You would better read the views of Mr. Ambedkar on reservation and go through the data for yourself about how much reservations have helped this country.... however the other comments posted will give you a fair idea of the kind of reactions your article may revoke.. May you get slightly more sensible in writing for a public column next time around...
Posted On 8/29/2009 6:02:32 PM
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Praveen Said:
A fantastically written article that shows the complete absence of 'proportional representation' in Indian industires; leave proportional representation, at least a fair representation of the majority is missing. A fair competition policy to do away with the shortcomings in the system and governance which allows a minority to exploit the majority should evolve, which could be the only answer to the problem.
Posted On 8/29/2009 6:28:43 PM
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Balasubramanian Said:
All this in spite of 62 years of reservation and suppression of Brahmins by the so called dalits/shudras.
Well done Brahmins!
Posted On 8/29/2009 7:55:32 PM
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umashankar Said:
I think this "Dalit" thing has been hyped, and politicized to death. Who are these dalits? How are they Dalits? Till when they will remain Dalits? Will they eventually branch off to a different human race?
And I believe that the media has been playing an insidiously heinous role in propagating the stinking notion. Its not unusual for one to come across a snippet, "Dalit Murdered!", or a "Dalit Raped". When they do this they simply forget two things:
1. For every "Dalit Murdered" there could be several so called "savarns" butchered.
2. Some of the "savarns" murdered could be as downtrodden financially as a "dalit", if not more.
Moreover, there seems to be no end to pushing of reservations for dalits everywhere by the hypocrites. Ironically, most of these dalit torch bearers if subjected to a medical distress will hunt for a doctor who did not make it to the medical world by the quota system. So much for their respect to the fellow race.
Mr Raghvendra's comment is most appropriate for this article. Mr Akar Patel has forgotten to mention that most of the brahimins and banias mentioned in the list have made it on account of their own blood and sweat. And they have not done any disservice to a tottering Nation. In fact, the nation may have had a poorer face but for the efforts of Gladiators like them.
SHAME ON YOU, MINT, for publishing something like this.
Posted On 8/29/2009 8:19:11 PM
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Sue Said:
Having read the article, what struck me the most was that with most of India now being ruled by Shudra, isn't it time that they created an India where there is no discrimination for education, clean water, electricity and better infrastructure for their community. If the politicians did what they were elected to do without using their opportunity to further they bank balance and building enough wealth for generations of their families, there would be equality for all. If politicians did not divide and rule to further their vote bank, every Indian can have a better life. Instead of fighting the private sector for reservation, every Shudra should knock on their own community leaders who are politicians in power and demand that they create the necessary infrastructure to create opportunities for them. They should make them accountable.
Posted On 8/29/2009 9:13:58 PM
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sandeep Said:
The topic is a very interesting and deserves to be studied. But the way the author presents the data is awful .Either he is fully biased and has made up his mind to attract attention (and going by no. of comments one can say that) or doesn't have a basic understanding of how data should be presented.
The way the data is presented is a good example of how statistics is misused to draw biased results.
The data should be presented in such a way that % of companies(c%) with ceo of particular caste, and also the % population(p%) of that caste; with the relative proportion (c/p) also mentioned.This can be used to draw conclusions related to the problem.
I have been a big fan since its launch and had recommended it to friends.
But I am stunned that the mint editor has allowed such a shoddy piece of illogical and manipulative writing to be published.
But the interesting thing one can learn from the comments is that there are many people who want to remain blind to the country's social problems and refuse to even consider that there are disparities in our society. And why hasn't anyone questioned the data presentation till now?
Posted On 8/29/2009 10:15:03 PM
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Sowmya Said:
How sad that a news paper of this calibre is running articles like these. In a country where each person is trying hard to make peace with his own kin, media should not yearn to find ways to draw lines. How jobless is the author to have research this much crap. His time could have been put to much better use if had he used it to find out what makes these companies come together as India Inc. inspite of all these differences. Thourpoughly disgusted and dissappointed. And i am neither a bania nor a brahmin and it shouldnt matter either way!!!!
Posted On 8/29/2009 10:52:42 PM
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Anand Said:
A large proportion of Brahmins are shut out of opportunities they are qualified for and capable of serving simply because of their birth. It may simply be that talent which is denied an opportunity in one segment say government jobs, migrates towards another segment, or creates it. There are examples of countries where a blanket closure of opportunity to a community had serious adverse impact on the economy e.g. the collapse of agriculture in Zimbabwe after white farmers were virtually driven out after independence.
I wonder why the column failed to study the profile of chiefs of the army, navy and air-force? If a similar pattern is detected there would the author also foresee reservations in the defence services? Would one say that individuals with a height exceeding two metres hegemonise basketball? Or that those weighing over 100kg hegemonise rugby? Would the mass appeal of sports persist if reservations were applied in team selection?
Posted On 8/29/2009 11:27:14 PM
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Parthasarathy Said:
Article seems to miss the key point, it is not who rules what but is the right people doing the right job. Our Indian system is based on that but our western lords part of their ruling for 100 yrs have left us with their thinking. It is time India goes back to the golder yrs thinking were all are equal and people did what they are good at.
I am let down by fellow brother and sisters comment on this article. I will appreciate if the author can follow this article with view that reflect our past thoughts.
Note: I do accept that it is a shame that for a period of time Indian's caste system when wrong side. It is a mistake that all have to accept and make sure it does not happen again.
Posted On 8/29/2009 11:57:07 PM
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aanand Said:
one of the articles that is making me rethink my decision to switch to Mint. No person on this Earth is free from flaws, certain not the people in public service, but to identify nation builders on the basis of their castes is close to blasphemy. having said that , i admit that i do not find any thing incorrect in furthering social equity in our country.the writer could do well to review the views expressed here.
Posted On 8/30/2009 4:12:15 AM
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KV Said:
Dear Aakaar
You still wants to kick out merit / professionalism from our corporates also?This is the only place we are having some say. The casist and present reservation system is rotten and leaves no space for decency and merit!!Do you have any idea how the premier institutes like IITs are crying on downgrading the merit!!
Well..AAKAAR....if You want to be dirty politician for selfish means then you encourage all these...
Posted On 8/30/2009 9:20:12 AM
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harsh Said:
Mr. Patel's article proves that along with politics, the standards of journalism is also nosediving. This article is bitching about succesful people who earned riches and fame by hard work without any crutches of reservationist policies. Why doen he not write an article about patels buying fake US visas and being one of the most hated people in US and entire Africa. B&Bs are progressive, balanced and peaceloving people. Imagine a similar article written against backward class people controlling and corrupting PSUs. By now entire nation w'd have been on fire. Time has come to stop descriminating and move on else disintegration is not far off.
Posted On 8/30/2009 2:27:28 PM
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kirti Said:
Thank Mr Patel for reminding a very important incidence from mathematics class. Long back when studying calculus, the entire class of mine was finding the Subject of DIfferentation easier that that of Integration. On informing the well known professor he replied back smiling that this is our national habit. We need national integration council but do not need differentiation council. Perhaps the wise man had come across many alikes of Mr. Patel. BTW the professor too was a brahmin.
Posted On 8/30/2009 2:32:07 PM
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praviman Said:
important is not an artical ,,the most important is the comments,, majority of comments shows the negative side of arguments. reservations in private sector could be one options to take india to further stage,,but unfortunately all these coments shows the kind of mindset we are carrying that is why disadvantaged people are in same seen through centuries...
why should we feel insecure when issue comes to reservations, and mainstreaming majority of Indians...
Posted On 8/31/2009 3:27:55 AM
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Gandhi Said:
Hi Mr Patel,
I must commend you on a very well researched article. However, I think it would be more illuminating to find out the economic background of these captains of industry and politics that you have mentioned.
Posted On 8/31/2009 9:21:41 AM
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naren Said:
I have been following your column in the mint for a while now. I greatly admire your down-to-earth style of writing and the choice of the topics. This one too is an eye-opener. Enjoyed!
Posted On 8/31/2009 10:10:08 AM
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Nikhil Said:
Why doesnt someone also do a similar exercise for Jews in the US for example and compare the results..
What a piece of trash.. not worthy of Mint
Posted On 8/31/2009 12:15:45 PM
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rajneesh Said:
pl do not divide my country again
Posted On 8/31/2009 2:00:56 PM
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Shaji Said:
I fail to understand the criticism of the author or the article as caste biased etc. The article is only making a correct statement of fact- that the private sector ( where merit rules) is dominated by B&B whereas the political class (who make the rules)is dominated by the sudras. Surely the lower castes should receive a better deal if India is to eventually become a world power. But the way to go about it is not to dilute meritocracy in the private sector but to improve the lot of the common man/lower classes by better education , better poverty alleviation schemes. Improving the lot of the common man today rests almost entirely with the political class. Instead what does the political class do- they have become one of the most corrupt societies on the face of the earth. Men who join politics without owning even a cycle end up with Swiss bank accounts the moment they are given positions of authority.
This is what India has to eradicate- not lower standards in the private sector by reservations.
Posted On 8/31/2009 5:07:52 PM
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Antony Said:
I have absolutely no idea what words e "Bania", "Khoja" or "Luhana" mean. What the hell is wrong with these people, who seem to talk caste in everything and reinforce the whole stupid caste system? Seriously, why talk caste at all? I had no idea what the castes of all the people mentioned in the article were. I never cared. And I still don't.
It's clear the root cause of the whole caste system is the religion which it came from. If you want to solve the problem, first ban the religion from which this whole stupid idea originated and stop its practice.
Then stop talking caste. Why does it matter? Why is it that some people see everybody based on his/her caste identity? Why do people perpetuate that?
About "reservations" in private sector: at what all levels should the same person should get such benefits? Now, the same person can use reservations in college, PG courses, research courses; and now jobs? If reservations do not help people to be competent - good enough to compete with others without whining about how their great-grandfathers were abused a hundred years ago and so they are at a disadvantage - then what good are reservations? Instead of giving reservations at every level, why not give them a backward-caste pension directly instead, since they seem to be unable to be competent whatever benefits you give to them for whatever periods of time?
Exactly what is this article trying to say? Since these companies don't have CEOs from certain sections of the society, there must be reservations for those sections at the CEO level?
62 years after independence, some stupid people still see everything from a casteist angle. They don't seem to notice that the world has moved on. Maybe the reason why these people - according to them - don't become CEOs or whatever is because they never try to compete with the the general population, instead whining to the government to give them differentiated benefits at EVERY stage of their lives. This is really pathetic.
Posted On 8/31/2009 11:30:46 PM
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Rahul Said:
This article shows what everybody already knows. The Marwadis (being more specific than Bainias) control the Indian economy just like Jews do in the USA. This has to do with the way their culture evolved and the support the community provides to its bussinessmen. Reservation will not break this hegemony. Business will continue to be owned by banias and brahmins. At most the so called 'peasant' class will get jobs as clerks and lower management.
Frankly this article appears biased. The wording could have been better.
Posted On 9/1/2009 9:41:27 AM
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Narasimhan Said:
You are strangely silent about HCL promoted and run by Nadars, who belong to the socalled Shudras.
Posted On 9/1/2009 12:13:38 PM
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shashikant Said:
I am a brahmin,firmly believing in merit based system.My paternal grand father, living in village and poor,was educated to 2nd grade.Guess what, his two childrn became engineers(one died shortly after graduation) and one accountant.My father educated me and my brother to become doctore and my brother is an engineer.All my cousins have at least college degree.No body was given on siver platter nor we had any political influenc.Every one has brain,which has no caste or religious barriers.It is one who uses the brain given to them,become the successful.It is a fact of life.
It is easiest to hate someone for his success.One cannot progress by hating someone for his success,one should learn from successful people.
Many Brahmins have left the country.
Brahmins are less than 3% of India's population,and it is alleged Brahmins ruled India in the past and even present.
Less than 50,000 Muslim invaders came, conquered and ruled on us for almost 1700 years.Then 17,000 British soldiers did the same to us and now few thousand politicians are doing the same.
For such small population, Brahmins have produced disprpotionate number of freedom fighters,military officers, scinists, engineers doctors and other professionals.
What Brahmin haters have produced? In just 62 years of independance,$2 Trillions were stolen from our poor country and stashed away in foreign banks.Who are these people and who elected them again and again,Brahmins?.Who is suffering? 97% of non Brahmins.This money could have been used to develop infrastructure needs.Those thieves are responsible for deaths and sufferings of millions,because of malnutrition,starvation and shortage of everything.Who is responsible? Politicians, not brahmins.
The biggest mistake we were and are still making,is not knowing our real history,especially from 7th century.It is a sad history of slaughter of estimated 15 to 20 crores of Hindus,in the hands of invaders.Why? we were divided then,and we are worst now.
Posted On 9/1/2009 1:58:45 PM
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senthilkumarsampavar Said:
reservation for private sector immediatly apply for govt order first one think good responsibility and then independance for dalit employee and employer because private sector employee fully particular caste dominated and then dalit employee and employer did not responsibility for private sector the dalit employee and employer hope for govt sector so reservation increased for fully govt sector used for dalit.
Posted On 9/1/2009 4:44:38 PM
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chandra Said:
I had great patient to read all the comments and the article, it is great article and it has right diagnosis also.
There is nothing short of saying Mint is eroding, Mr Patel is wasting time or something like that, Mr Patel is a great writer I read every column of his.
I have also read Swami Vivekananda’s and B R Ambedkar’s writings on “caste”.
One can’t have dogmatic view like the fundamentalist who rejects other views without studying properly and respect others view.
Posted On 9/1/2009 7:15:51 PM
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Jayashree Said:
"CII and Ficci oppose job reservations in the private sector, but Manmohan Singh is keen"---so does Manmohan singh wants reservation in private sectors based on caste.If that is the fact,how many percentage for SC/ST,MBC and BC?...When the countries of the world are trying to find the possible ways to save itself from bad hit on the market its funny that congress is more keen on caste based reservations in private sectors.May be they will go down a little further and bring some tax rebates for the salaried class of backward communities.I dont understand why this idea dint strike Manmohan.
Posted On 9/2/2009 8:08:55 AM
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Shakti Said:
Mr. Patel,
I am aghast to see this article, were you trying to fill the space...it seems you credit people's achievement based on their caste and not on their hard work. Its shameful to read this article in a business daily like mint, i am surprised how could the editor allowed it to be published.
I would suggest that you should stop writing, the quality of your articles are very substandard. I hope people at Mint realize it soon.
thanks,
Shakti Khanna ( Ms)
Posted On 9/2/2009 4:49:08 PM
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manohar Said:
it's really hard to open the truth and spred it over country. Very rare people can do this you are one of them . keep it up B and B always have fear of their gods and the reality YOU REALLY SHAKING THEM
Posted On 9/3/2009 10:17:14 PM
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Anurag Said:
Please look at this video:
i hope your opinion changes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC3C2voZjrA&feature=related
Posted On 9/5/2009 4:12:50 AM
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Renu Said:
And you point is? The only one thing that is good in India,the private sector, you want that also to get rotten?
It just makes me sad that people like you who are educated also want to depend on reservations and not believe in working hard and prove their merit.
You have lost a long time fan by stooping down so low and talking about caste when we ought to move away from caste, race, color and all such derogatory things.
Posted On 9/10/2009 8:41:41 PM
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nirseek Said:
That is why private sector is a success and the politics is a corrupt mess dominated by lazy fellows who want to have a free lunch. After looking at the success of the private sector, now you guys want reservations there?
http://cdharma.blogspot.com/2009/08/great-indian-modern-ongoing-injustice.html
Posted On 9/15/2009 3:20:22 AM
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nirseek Said:
Let us start reservations in private sector from Hill Road Media and this Aakar Patel seems to be from Forward Caste. He should give up his post to a deserving guy from SC/ST/BC
Posted On 9/15/2009 3:36:06 AM
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Sanket Said:
The article brings out certain facts which seem to imply that reservations in private sector are likely to be enforced. It makes no comments on whether the reservations are good or bad.I think the facts presented are quite persuasive.
I find only two things common in India: the caste system and (direct or indirect)British rule.
Posted On 9/25/2009 1:40:07 PM
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NagaVenugopal Said:
You all might all have seen that If any questions raise on Caste then we all stood as one n debating.
None of the Guys who entered their comments find a solution or helped really solving the dalit issue and stop the peopel who are rich and still enjoying the benfits of Reservation System.
The reservation System should be based on the Income of the family not on Caste.
Words won't work. Do something.
Posted On 10/18/2009 1:19:41 AM
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Phekan Said:
What crap. Sikhs are the remnants of the Shudra caste. Last great Sikh King- Ranjit Singh was a Shudra. Shivaji was a Shudra by classification. They were all accorded Kshatriya status for their act of valor and thinking by the Brahmins. They were guided in their action by Brahmins. The war of 1857 was fought by Brahmins - Nana Saheb, Tatya Tope, Rani Laxmibai.The last great Hindu kingdoms - Vijaynagar and Maratha empire were run by Brahmins. Golden age of Indian culture - Gupta empire was again created and run by Brahmins. Wasnt that enough? i do agree that societ has stratified that does not mean all the Brahmins are wrong we need fresh young blood from all groups to wipe out the rapacious leaders from our present generation including - Shudras. Do you really like Laloo, Mayawati and Mulayalam types to rule the country.
Posted On 11/16/2009 1:06:42 AM
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